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=== Known timesaves ===
=== Known timesaves ===
* '''UR 3lap''' - By bonking onto the wall below the bouncy part of the first mushroom, you can enter a [[Barrel roll | BR]] state, then upon bouncing you hop, which sends you backwards. Using a mushroom during the BR, you can propel yourself onto the mountain wall with the 100 IV lock, saving over a second.
'''<u>UR 3lap</u>'''<br>
* '''UR 3lap''' - You can ride the mountain wall more efficiently by performing the taildive rejection from lap 1 shroomless on all 3 laps. This lets you use an additional mushroom when approaching the BR strat.
* By bonking onto the wall below the bouncy part of the first mushroom, you can enter a [[Barrel roll | BR]] state, then upon bouncing you hop, which sends you backwards. Using a mushroom during the BR, you can propel yourself onto the mountain wall with the 100 IV lock, saving over a second.<br>
* '''NU 3lap''' - Performing the "cliff climb" shortcut on all three laps would save multiple seconds.
* You can ride the mountain wall more efficiently by performing the taildive rejection from lap 1 shroomless on all 3 laps. This lets you use an additional mushroom when approaching the BR strat.
* '''NU 3lap''' - Performing the last turn "wall ride" shortcut with the trick boost mushroom skip strategy is a good amount faster than bouncing over the top.<ref>[https://streamable.com/2vh0ij "framedump0" by Thomas]</ref>
'''<u>NU 3lap</u>'''<br>
* '''NU flap''' - Performing a [[Delayed lap count | DLC]] to begin the lap in front of the finish line
* Performing the "cliff climb" shortcut on all three laps would save multiple seconds.<br>
* '''NU flap''' - Tricking off two mushrooms upon landing in the cave after the "cliff climb" shortcut has been shown to be faster.<ref>[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735589843513638940/1058967083548946542/IMG_0290.mov "IMG_0290.mov" by Jellopuff]</ref>
* Performing the last turn "wall ride" shortcut with the trick boost mushroom skip strategy is a good amount faster than bouncing over the top.<ref>[https://streamable.com/2vh0ij "framedump0" by Thomas]</ref>
* '''NG 3lap''' - Faster start slide exists than the one used in the current TAS
'''<u>NU Flap</u>'''<br>
* '''NG 3lap''' - More optimization has been done at the beginning of lap 1, and can similarly be done in the rest of the TAS.
* Performing a [[Delayed lap count | DLC]] to begin the lap in front of the finish line<br>
* '''NG flap''' - Using EV gained from simply drifting into the air with an [[Outside-drifting bike | ODB]], you can carry sideways momentum throughout the cave, making ODB faster. This is allowed in No Glitch TASes as it is a purely natural ODB mechanic, unlike something like superhopping.
* Tricking off two mushrooms upon landing in the cave after the "cliff climb" shortcut has been shown to be faster.<ref>[https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/735589843513638940/1058967083548946542/IMG_0290.mov "IMG_0290.mov" by Jellopuff]</ref>
'''<u>NG 3lap</u>'''<br>
* Faster start slide exists than the one used in the current TAS<br>
* More optimization has been done at the beginning of lap 1, and can similarly be done in the rest of the TAS.
'''<u>NG Flap</u>'''<br>
* Using EV gained from simply drifting into the air with an [[Outside-drifting bike | ODB]], you can carry sideways momentum throughout the cave, making ODB faster. This is allowed in No Glitch TASes as it is a purely natural ODB mechanic, unlike something like superhopping.


=== Potential timesaves ===
=== Potential timesaves ===
* '''UR 3lap''' - Thomas claims [[Vehicles#Sugarscoot | Sugarscoot]] has the fastest movement on the wall of any bike. This has not been confirmed, so all work towards the BR strat has been done with [[Vehicles#Mach Bike | Mach Bike]].
'''<u>UR 3lap</u>'''<br>
* '''UR 3lap''' - Using [[Vehicles#Mini Beast | Mini Beast]] to rotate on the wall significantly faster than any bikes has not been tested, so it is not known whether it saves more than you would lose from not doing the BR strat, or if it saves any time at all.
* Thomas claims [[Vehicles#Sugarscoot | Sugarscoot]] has the fastest movement on the wall of any bike. This has not been confirmed, so all work towards the BR strat has been done with [[Vehicles#Mach Bike | Mach Bike]].<br>
* '''NU 3lap''' - Using ODB is not confirmed faster for NU 3lap, though is suspected to be.
* Using [[Vehicles#Mini Beast | Mini Beast]] to rotate on the wall significantly faster than any bikes has not been tested, so it is not known whether it saves more than you would lose from not doing the BR strat, or if it saves any time at all.
* '''NU flap''' - Using ODB is not confirmed faster for NU flap either, though is also suspected to be.
'''<u>NU 3lap</u>'''<br>
* '''NU flap''' - By performing a DLC and then going back onto the wall, you can enter the lap in a trick boost to prevent having to accelerate from 0. However, doing the wallride in this way currently either forces you to accelerate from having backwards momentum (i.e. worse than starting at 0) or enter the lap on the wall (i.e. defeating the point of performing the delayed lap count).
* Using ODB is not confirmed faster for NU 3lap, though is suspected to be.
* '''NG 3lap''' - If the ODB drifting momentum strategy can be performed efficiently enough, it could be faster in a 3lap environment.
'''<u>NU Flap</u>'''<br>
* Using ODB is not confirmed faster for NU flap either, though is also suspected to be.<br>
* By performing a DLC and then going back onto the wall, you can enter the lap in a trick boost to prevent having to accelerate from 0. However, doing the wallride in this way currently either forces you to accelerate from having backwards momentum (i.e. worse than starting at 0) or enter the lap on the wall (i.e. defeating the point of performing the delayed lap count).
'''<u>NG 3lap</u>'''<br>
* If the ODB drifting momentum strategy can be performed efficiently enough, it could be faster in a 3lap environment.


== References ==
== References ==