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Luigi Circuit has a 3lap viable [[ultra shortcut]], and currently benefits from [[supergrinding]], [[superhopping]], and [[supersliding]] in both 3lap and flap categories. Hence, it has three 3lap categories and three flap categories. Currently, there is no existing 3lap run using an ultra shortcut, so the Unrestricted 3lap record is also technically the No Ultra 3lap record.
Luigi Circuit has a 3lap viable [[ultra shortcut]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgXFztUFK5E New Shortcut on Luigi Circuit (MKWii TAS)]</ref>, and currently benefits from [[supergrinding]], [[superhopping]], and [[supersliding]] in both 3lap and flap categories. Hence, it has three 3lap categories and three flap categories. Currently, there is no existing 3lap run using an ultra shortcut, so the Unrestricted 3lap record is also technically the No Ultra 3lap record.


=== Unrestricted 3lap ===
=== Unrestricted 3lap ===
:''Video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6dpk4ht6A 1:02.466 by Jellopuff, Ejay, Kierio, Malleo, and Thomas (2020)]''
:''Video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmgyRsrVXHU 0:59.796 by flambambam (2025)]''
The current strategy for UR 3lap is to perform two supergrinds on each lap. The first supergrind takes you down the back straight, and requires a mushroom. Performing the supergrind shroomless loses more than sacrificing the pipe shortcut on the last turn, so the pipe shortcut is never taken on any lap. The second supergrind takes you down the front straight and past the finish line, and can be performed shroomless each lap.
Despite it fastest existing run, this TAS doesn't implement the best known strategies, as it was created to be an RTA strategy TAS.<br>
The current strategy for UR 3lap is to superslide for almost the entire race. Wario Bike is used to superslide, and King Boo is used for the handling stat bonus. Automatic transmission is used for the additional handling (and due to the RTA strategy restriction; manual would be faster due to superhopping).<br>
To access the superslide, a wallclip is performed from a billboard after the first turn, clearing an invisible wall and landing on the road seam. The first two shrooms are used to quickly reach the wallclip, the third is used for the wallclip itself. Upon landing, the superslide state is entered without fully stopping, although the entry is not instant and uses a landing bounce. After this, [[EV]] is quickly generated to stay at 120 u/f for the rest of the race, driving on offroad for tighter lines without worrying about slowdown.


=== Unrestricted Flap ===
=== Unrestricted Flap ===
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*<b>Offroad cut</b>: The third mushroom is used here. Very similar to the 3lap, although the wallclip is not necessary for a good line.
*<b>Offroad cut</b>: The third mushroom is used here. Very similar to the 3lap, although the wallclip is not necessary for a good line.


== History ==
== Alternative strategies ==
 
''TODO: History of all strat developements. Section devoted to supergrinding as well as one for the ultra shortcut and all the theories that led to its discovery.''
 
=== TAS Competitions ===
 
Luigi Circuit has featured in three tasks of the [[MKWii TAS Competition]] (Task 2 2020, Task 2 2023, Christmas Task 2023).
 
== Future ==


=== Known timesaves ===
=== Known timesaves ===
'''UR 3lap'''
'''UR 3lap'''
* Implementing the ultra shortcut would bring the TAS well below the 50 seconds mark. A preliminary route involves performing SG and SH on lap 1, then doing two ultras to skip laps 2 and 3.
* Implementing the ultra shortcut would bring the TAS well below the 50 seconds mark. A preliminary route involves performing SH on lap 1, then doing two ultras to skip laps 2 and 3.
'''UR Flap'''
'''UR Flap'''
* Marth improved the flap to a 10.324, mostly by performing a tighter ultra and improving the superslide landing.
* Marth improved the flap to a 10.324, mostly by performing a tighter ultra and improving the superslide landing.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/600410593937195069/1204959369041678416 #tas-files channel]</ref>
'''NU 3lap'''
'''NU 3lap'''
* Monster and Marth have a 19.446 lap 1 using SG and SH. Were a full 3lap run finished, it would bring the TAS under 58 seconds.
* Monster and Marth have a 19.446 lap 1 using SG and SH.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1428639704315723876/1428645355297181796 LC NU 3lap thread]</ref>
'''NU Flap'''
*Aoiro and Monster set a currently unuploaded 18.045.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1405497073544990871/1405497073544990871 LC NU Flap thread]</ref>
'''NG Flap'''
'''NG Flap'''
* Starting the lap with different QM, to allow for the best soft wall interaction possible at the ramp.
* Starting the lap with different QM, to allow for the best soft wall interaction possible at the ramp.
* Delaying the hop on the first turn by a couple frames was a missed small optimization.
* Delaying the hop on the first turn by a couple frames was a missed small optimization.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/600410593937195069/1260419713851195453 #tas-files channel]</ref>
* At the cut, there is a 1 f bounce during shroom acceleration, which can likely be prevented.
* At the cut, there is a 1 f bounce during shroom acceleration, which can likely be prevented.


=== Potential timesaves ===
=== Notable obsoleted strategies ===
'''UR 3lap'''
* On lap 1, after the first turn, it is possible to initiate a supergrind on the sloped curb to the left using a mushroom; the SG can be kept through the next straightway, to reach the trick ramp shroomless with an ejection.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6dpk4ht6A (MKW TAS) Luigi Circuit (Supergrinding) - 1:02.466 by Jellopuff, Ejay, Kierio, Malleo, and Thomas]</ref> However, superhopping is faster because it doesn't take a mushroom, and speed doesn't drop below 120 u/f.
'''UR Flap'''
* There is an alternative method for performing the ultra. The setup involves using a mushroom to wallclip and land on the seam (like the current NU Flap), then [[seam riding]] up to KCP 0. Starting the lap on the seam, the [[Checkpoint#CP 1 trick | CP 1 trick]] is performed, and two mushrooms are used to turn around and perform an OOB bounce, avoiding CP 22 and respawning in CP 21 such that the 95% rule is satisfied.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVkvLACPCo (MKW TAS) New Ultra Shortcut on Luigi Circuit]</ref> This strategy requires a [[respawn]], so it is slower than the respawnless ultra.
'''NU 3lap'''
'''NU 3lap'''
* A potential route using supersliding; shroom off the ramp for height, land on the road seam at the last turn and continue supersliding from there.
* Like for UR 3lap, using the sloped curb after the first turn to start a supergrind on each lap is slower than superhopping.
* An alternative route involves starting a supergrind on lap 1, using the last two mushrooms for more EV, and ejecting at the ramp for massive airtime to enter a superslide at the ending shortcut.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1428639704315723876/1430979522550960199 NU 3lap thread]</ref> This route is about 1-2 seconds slower than simply superhopping on every lap.
'''NG 3lap'''
* It is possible to perform the ramp trick by driving the 3rd turn normally, then spinhopping on the curb and clipping the corner of the ramp.<ref>[https://youtu.be/Zfs86h6BPVU?t=16 (Obsoleted) (MKWii TAS) Luigi Circuit - 1:07.986 (No Glitch)]</ref> This approach is about equal to the BKT, but the bike lands much further right from the trick, requiring a [[Hop#Rehop | rehop]] before the cut. Overall, it loses about 25-30 ms per lap to the BKT method.
'''NG Flap'''
* Using the first shroom at the first turn is ~25 ms slower than using it around turns 2 and 3.
 
== History ==
 
''TODO: History of all strat developements. Section devoted to supergrinding as well as one for the ultra shortcut and all the theories that led to its discovery.''
 
=== TAS Competitions ===
 
Luigi Circuit has featured in three tasks of the [[MKWii TAS Competition]] (Task 2 2020, Task 2 2023, Christmas Task 2023).


== References ==
== References ==