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*<b>Offroad cut</b>: The third mushroom is used here. Very similar to the 3lap, although the wallclip is not necessary for a good line. | *<b>Offroad cut</b>: The third mushroom is used here. Very similar to the 3lap, although the wallclip is not necessary for a good line. | ||
== | == Alternative strategies == | ||
=== Known timesaves === | === Known timesaves === | ||
'''UR 3lap''' | '''UR 3lap''' | ||
* Implementing the ultra shortcut would bring the TAS well below the 50 seconds mark. A preliminary route involves performing | * Implementing the ultra shortcut would bring the TAS well below the 50 seconds mark. A preliminary route involves performing SH on lap 1, then doing two ultras to skip laps 2 and 3. | ||
'''UR Flap''' | '''UR Flap''' | ||
* Marth improved the flap to a 10.324, mostly by performing a tighter ultra and improving the superslide landing.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/600410593937195069/1204959369041678416 #tas-files channel]</ref> | * Marth improved the flap to a 10.324, mostly by performing a tighter ultra and improving the superslide landing.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/600410593937195069/1204959369041678416 #tas-files channel]</ref> | ||
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* Monster and Marth have a 19.446 lap 1 using SG and SH.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1428639704315723876/1428645355297181796 LC NU 3lap thread]</ref> | * Monster and Marth have a 19.446 lap 1 using SG and SH.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1428639704315723876/1428645355297181796 LC NU 3lap thread]</ref> | ||
'''NU Flap''' | '''NU Flap''' | ||
*Aoiro and Monster set a currently unuploaded 18. | *Aoiro and Monster set a currently unuploaded 18.045.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1405497073544990871/1405497073544990871 LC NU Flap thread]</ref> | ||
'''NG Flap''' | '''NG Flap''' | ||
* Starting the lap with different QM, to allow for the best soft wall interaction possible at the ramp. | * Starting the lap with different QM, to allow for the best soft wall interaction possible at the ramp. | ||
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* At the cut, there is a 1 f bounce during shroom acceleration, which can likely be prevented. | * At the cut, there is a 1 f bounce during shroom acceleration, which can likely be prevented. | ||
=== | === Notable obsoleted strategies === | ||
'''UR 3lap''' | |||
* On lap 1, after the first turn, it is possible to initiate a supergrind on the sloped curb to the left using a mushroom; the SG can be kept through the next straightway, to reach the trick ramp shroomless with an ejection.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7D6dpk4ht6A (MKW TAS) Luigi Circuit (Supergrinding) - 1:02.466 by Jellopuff, Ejay, Kierio, Malleo, and Thomas]</ref> However, superhopping is faster because it doesn't take a mushroom, and speed doesn't drop below 120 u/f. | |||
'''UR Flap''' | |||
* There is an alternative method for performing the ultra. The setup involves using a mushroom to wallclip and land on the seam (like the current NU Flap), then [[seam riding]] up to KCP 0. Starting the lap on the seam, the [[Checkpoint#CP 1 trick | CP 1 trick]] is performed, and two mushrooms are used to turn around and perform an OOB bounce, avoiding CP 22 and respawning in CP 21 such that the 95% rule is satisfied.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWVkvLACPCo (MKW TAS) New Ultra Shortcut on Luigi Circuit]</ref> This strategy requires a [[respawn]], so it is slower than the respawnless ultra. | |||
'''NU 3lap''' | '''NU 3lap''' | ||
* | * Like for UR 3lap, using the sloped curb after the first turn to start a supergrind on each lap is slower than superhopping. | ||
* An alternative route involves starting a supergrind on lap 1, using the last two mushrooms for more EV, and ejecting at the ramp for massive airtime to enter a superslide at the ending shortcut.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/1428639704315723876/1430979522550960199 NU 3lap thread]</ref> This route is about 1-2 seconds slower than simply superhopping on every lap. | |||
'''NG 3lap''' | |||
* It is possible to perform the ramp trick by driving the 3rd turn normally, then spinhopping on the curb and clipping the corner of the ramp.<ref>[https://youtu.be/Zfs86h6BPVU?t=16 (Obsoleted) (MKWii TAS) Luigi Circuit - 1:07.986 (No Glitch)]</ref> This approach is about equal to the BKT, but the bike lands much further right from the trick, requiring a [[Hop#Rehop | rehop]] before the cut. Overall, it loses about 25-30 ms per lap to the BKT method. | |||
'''NG Flap''' | |||
* Using the first shroom at the first turn is ~25 ms slower than using it around turns 2 and 3. | |||
== History == | |||
''TODO: History of all strat developements. Section devoted to supergrinding as well as one for the ultra shortcut and all the theories that led to its discovery.'' | |||
=== TAS Competitions === | |||
Luigi Circuit has featured in three tasks of the [[MKWii TAS Competition]] (Task 2 2020, Task 2 2023, Christmas Task 2023). | |||
== References == | == References == | ||