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'''NU Flap'''

* Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster. This would create a new category, no longer making the current NG Flap also the current NU Flap.

* In addition, using the Wario Bike to perform WBSS upon entering the lap and until the first downhill is faster.

* In addition, using the Wario Bike to perform WBSS upon entering the lap and until the first downhill may be faster.<ref name="wgm wall squeeze">[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1180253137701969951 WGM WBSS Setup by Shadow], from MKWii TAS discord</ref><ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1180482863590809630 WGM WBSS Flap Entry by Shadow], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>

=== Known timesaves ===

'''UR 3lap'''

* Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster.

* Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster.<ref>[https://youtu.be/PwXZho2NUoU?si=9Eku5D1TcP5Caoym <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Superhopping Strats"</nowiki> by Monster], WGM SH strats demonstrated at 0:14</ref>

* Using an ODB to [[Supergrinding#ODB supergrinding | ODB supergrind]] and then [[Wallclip#ODB clip | ODB clip]] the right finish pole is faster than the traditional pipe bounce, and [[Bit Bike]] is the best vehicle to use.

* Using an ODB to [[Supergrinding#ODB supergrinding | ODB supergrind]] and then [[Wallclip#ODB clip | ODB clip]] the right finish pole is faster than the traditional pipe bounce, and [[Bit Bike]] is the best vehicle to use.<ref name="WGM 3lap pole">[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1149634703008210944 WGM ODB SG pole clip test by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref><ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1157293783034110004 WGM 3lap strat test with Bit Bike by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>

'''NG 3lap'''

* The entire TAS can likely be optimized slightly better.

* The start slide and clip drift sequence can be improved by about a frame (proven by Citrinitas).

* The start slide and clip drift sequence can be improved by about a frame.

* The lap 1 double trick can be improved by several frames (proven by CampbellMop).

* The lap 1 double trick can be improved by several frames.

* The lap 3 last turn can be improved by 0.001s (proven by CampbellMop).

* The lap 3 last turn can be improved by 0.001s.

* As a result, the entire TAS can be improved with better optimization.

'''UR Flap'''

* ~~Using~~ an ODB to ~~ODB supergrind and then ODB~~ clip the right finish pole using 2 mushrooms and then perform superhopping ~~after~~ the last ~~KCP hit~~ is faster than the ~~superslide~~ delayed lap count ~~and superslide ejection clip to do the same with 1 mushroom~~.

* Performing the delayed lap count pole clip with a [[Supergrinding | supergrind]] ejection and 2 mushrooms is faster than doing the same with a [[Supersliding | superslide]] ejection and 1 mushroom.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1147892303990624327 WGM DLC SG 2 shroom pole clip by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>

* Additionally, using an ODB SG to clip the right finish pole (as described above), but using 2 mushrooms, and then perform superhopping on the last turn is faster than the delayed lap count strategies altogether.<ref name="WGM 3lap pole" />

'''NG Flap'''

* Using one of the three mushrooms on the first uphill is faster than all three shroomspots used in the current TAS.

* Using one of the three mushrooms on the first uphill (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster than all three shroomspots used in the current TAS.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap">[https://youtu.be/0ywudiLmbDE?si=_3Pyr36ZlPQR9i8H "<nowiki>[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine (No Glitch) - 1:47.192"</nowiki> by DashQC], 3lap shroomspot demonstrated at 0:13, bat clip demonstrated at 0:21, detach demonstrated at 0:35</ref>

* Performing a bat clip at the bats section is faster, whether or not a mushroom is used there.

* Performing a bat clip at the bats section (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster, whether or not a mushroom is used there.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap" />

* Performing the detach strategy on the main path is faster than taking the shortcut path.

* Performing the detach strategy on the main path (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster than taking the shortcut path.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap" />

=== Potential timesaves ===

'''NG 3lap'''

* It is unclear whether or not drifting left upon landing from the detach strategy is slower.

* It is unclear whether or not drifting left upon landing from the detach strategy is slower.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/936094995092471879 "Heh" by CampbellMop], from MKWii TAS discord, detach landing demonstrated at 0:03</ref>

* It is unclear whether or not performing the double miniturbo strategy on the last turn of laps 1 and 2 is slower.

* It is unclear whether or not performing the double miniturbo strategy on the last turn of laps 1 and 2 is slower.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/936108699246800896 "rightpatch" by CampbellMop], from MKWii TAS discord, double MT demonstrated at 0:05</ref>

'''UR Flap'''

* Using the Wario Bike to perform the superslide delayed lap count and superslide ejection clip strategy to clip the right finish pole using 1 mushroom has neither been proven possible nor proven faster (the superslide to perform the delayed lap count has been proven possible using a wall squeeze to get over the last turn, but the superslide to get over the first turn ~~has~~ not).

* Using the Wario Bike to perform the superslide delayed lap count and superslide ejection clip strategy to clip the right finish pole using 1 mushroom has neither been proven possible nor proven faster (as described above, the superslide needed to perform the delayed lap count has been proven possible using a wall squeeze to get over the last turn, but the delayed lap count itself and the superslide to get over the first turn have not).<ref name="wgm wall squeeze" />

'''NG Flap'''

* It is currently unknown exactly which two shroomspots would be next fastest after the 3lap shroomspot (out of the ~~currently used~~ first downhill turnskip, the bats section turn, the edge drift turn, the turn leading into the detach strategy, and the landing from the detach)

* It is currently unknown exactly which two shroomspots would be next fastest after the 3lap shroomspot out of the first downhill turnskip (as done in the NG flap), the bats section turn (as done in the NG flap), the edge drift turn, the turn after the edge drift (as done in a former NG flap), the turn leading into the detach strategy, and the landing from the detach.<ref>[https://youtu.be/mpiwoHBYReE?si=e8_iCgdDZD4MCBLN <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine Flap - 34.743 by Akari, Ejay, Luke, and Marth (No Glitch) (Re-Encode)"</nowiki> by Kierio04], first downhill demonstrated at 0:11, bats section turn demonstrated at 0:22</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/p-YvlzTvwYs?si=jA5R9h5ZjicD4P-m <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine Flap - 35.166 by Akari (No Glitch) (Re-Encode)"</nowiki> by Kierio04], turn after edge drift demonstrated at 0:31</ref>

== References ==

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 '''NU Flap'''
 * Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster. This would create a new category, no longer making the current NG Flap also the current NU Flap.
-* In addition, using the Wario Bike to perform WBSS upon entering the lap and until the first downhill is faster.
+* In addition, using the Wario Bike to perform WBSS upon entering the lap and until the first downhill may be faster.<ref name="wgm wall squeeze">[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1180253137701969951 WGM WBSS Setup by Shadow], from MKWii TAS discord</ref><ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1180482863590809630 WGM WBSS Flap Entry by Shadow], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>
 === Known timesaves ===
 '''UR 3lap'''
-* Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster.
+* Using an ODB to perform superhopping is faster.<ref>[https://youtu.be/PwXZho2NUoU?si=9Eku5D1TcP5Caoym <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Superhopping Strats"</nowiki> by Monster], WGM SH strats demonstrated at 0:14</ref>
-* Using an ODB to [[Supergrinding#ODB supergrinding | ODB supergrind]] and then [[Wallclip#ODB clip | ODB clip]] the right finish pole is faster than the traditional pipe bounce, and [[Bit Bike]] is the best vehicle to use.
+* Using an ODB to [[Supergrinding#ODB supergrinding | ODB supergrind]] and then [[Wallclip#ODB clip | ODB clip]] the right finish pole is faster than the traditional pipe bounce, and [[Bit Bike]] is the best vehicle to use.<ref name="WGM 3lap pole">[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1149634703008210944 WGM ODB SG pole clip test by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref><ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1157293783034110004 WGM 3lap strat test with Bit Bike by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>
 '''NG 3lap'''
-* The entire TAS can likely be optimized slightly better.
+* The start slide and clip drift sequence can be improved by about a frame (proven by Citrinitas).
-* The start slide and clip drift sequence can be improved by about a frame.
+* The lap 1 double trick can be improved by several frames (proven by CampbellMop).
-* The lap 1 double trick can be improved by several frames.
+* The lap 3 last turn can be improved by 0.001s (proven by CampbellMop).
-* The lap 3 last turn can be improved by 0.001s.
+* As a result, the entire TAS can be improved with better optimization.
 '''UR Flap'''
-* Using an ODB to ODB supergrind and then ODB clip the right finish pole using 2 mushrooms and then perform superhopping after the last KCP hit is faster than the superslide delayed lap count and superslide ejection clip to do the same with 1 mushroom.
+* Performing the delayed lap count pole clip with a [[Supergrinding | supergrind]] ejection and 2 mushrooms is faster than doing the same with a [[Supersliding | superslide]] ejection and 1 mushroom.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/1147892303990624327 WGM DLC SG 2 shroom pole clip by Monster], from MKWii TAS discord</ref>
+* Additionally, using an ODB SG to clip the right finish pole (as described above), but using 2 mushrooms, and then perform superhopping on the last turn is faster than the delayed lap count strategies altogether.<ref name="WGM 3lap pole" />
 '''NG Flap'''
-* Using one of the three mushrooms on the first uphill is faster than all three shroomspots used in the current TAS.
+* Using one of the three mushrooms on the first uphill (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster than all three shroomspots used in the current TAS.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap">[https://youtu.be/0ywudiLmbDE?si=_3Pyr36ZlPQR9i8H "<nowiki>[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine (No Glitch) - 1:47.192"</nowiki> by DashQC], 3lap shroomspot demonstrated at 0:13, bat clip demonstrated at 0:21, detach demonstrated at 0:35</ref>
-* Performing a bat clip at the bats section is faster, whether or not a mushroom is used there.
+* Performing a bat clip at the bats section (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster, whether or not a mushroom is used there.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap" />
-* Performing the detach strategy on the main path is faster than taking the shortcut path.
+* Performing the detach strategy on the main path (as done in the NG 3lap) is faster than taking the shortcut path.<ref name="WGM dash 3lap" />
 === Potential timesaves ===
 '''NG 3lap'''
-* It is unclear whether or not drifting left upon landing from the detach strategy is slower.
+* It is unclear whether or not drifting left upon landing from the detach strategy is slower.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/936094995092471879 "Heh" by CampbellMop], from MKWii TAS discord, detach landing demonstrated at 0:03</ref>
-* It is unclear whether or not performing the double miniturbo strategy on the last turn of laps 1 and 2 is slower.
+* It is unclear whether or not performing the double miniturbo strategy on the last turn of laps 1 and 2 is slower.<ref>[https://discord.com/channels/214574342137315328/735589843513638940/936108699246800896 "rightpatch" by CampbellMop], from MKWii TAS discord, double MT demonstrated at 0:05</ref>
 '''UR Flap'''
-* Using the Wario Bike to perform the superslide delayed lap count and superslide ejection clip strategy to clip the right finish pole using 1 mushroom has neither been proven possible nor proven faster (the superslide to perform the delayed lap count has been proven possible using a wall squeeze to get over the last turn, but the superslide to get over the first turn has not).
+* Using the Wario Bike to perform the superslide delayed lap count and superslide ejection clip strategy to clip the right finish pole using 1 mushroom has neither been proven possible nor proven faster (as described above, the superslide needed to perform the delayed lap count has been proven possible using a wall squeeze to get over the last turn, but the delayed lap count itself and the superslide to get over the first turn have not).<ref name="wgm wall squeeze" />
 '''NG Flap'''
-* It is currently unknown exactly which two shroomspots would be next fastest after the 3lap shroomspot (out of the currently used first downhill turnskip, the bats section turn, the edge drift turn, the turn leading into the detach strategy, and the landing from the detach)
+* It is currently unknown exactly which two shroomspots would be next fastest after the 3lap shroomspot out of the first downhill turnskip (as done in the NG flap), the bats section turn (as done in the NG flap), the edge drift turn, the turn after the edge drift (as done in a former NG flap), the turn leading into the detach strategy, and the landing from the detach.<ref>[https://youtu.be/mpiwoHBYReE?si=e8_iCgdDZD4MCBLN <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine Flap - 34.743 by Akari, Ejay, Luke, and Marth (No Glitch) (Re-Encode)"</nowiki> by Kierio04], first downhill demonstrated at 0:11, bats section turn demonstrated at 0:22</ref><ref>[https://youtu.be/p-YvlzTvwYs?si=jA5R9h5ZjicD4P-m <nowiki>"[MKWii TAS] Wario's Gold Mine Flap - 35.166 by Akari (No Glitch) (Re-Encode)"</nowiki> by Kierio04], turn after edge drift demonstrated at 0:31</ref>
 == References ==